Comments on: Review: Casanova #3 http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/ Never Safe For Work Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:37:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Myk http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Myk Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:45:39 +0000 http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/#comment-138 Chris, the four-tier thing; if you look at <i>Asterix</i> for example, it´s a very rigid, almost religious, 4-tier grid. <i>Hergé</i> too, I´m pretty sure, but I don´t have his books here right now, so I might be wrong. On the other hand, <i>Franquin</i> in his <i>Spriou</i> series, and I´m looking at <i>Le Voyageur Du Mesozoique</i> here specifically, uses an approach much more like the one you describe above. It is basically a 4-tier grid, but the tiers are compressed, expanded, broken up to fit the much more imaginative/adventurous tone of the story. One current example I could think of is <i>Trondheim</i> who, in <i>Lapinot</i> is very rigid 4-tier, but much more experimental in <i>Donjon</i>. Although, ironically, he did a Spirou-homage in <i>Lapinot</i>, but didn´t mimic the more "experimental" layouts used by <i>Franquin</i>. Chris, the four-tier thing; if you look at Asterix for example, it´s a very rigid, almost religious, 4-tier grid. Hergé too, I´m pretty sure, but I don´t have his books here right now, so I might be wrong.

On the other hand, Franquin in his Spriou series, and I´m looking at Le Voyageur Du Mesozoique here specifically, uses an approach much more like the one you describe above. It is basically a 4-tier grid, but the tiers are compressed, expanded, broken up to fit the much more imaginative/adventurous tone of the story.

One current example I could think of is Trondheim who, in Lapinot is very rigid 4-tier, but much more experimental in Donjon.

Although, ironically, he did a Spirou-homage in Lapinot, but didn´t mimic the more “experimental” layouts used by Franquin.

]]> By: Chris http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/comment-page-1/#comment-133 Chris Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:12:33 +0000 http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/#comment-133 Joe- Not at all sir, thanks very much for the link. I hope what I'm doing sells some Casanova's for you...! Warren- Could you recommend a few examples of such? We've probably got them in the store here even, I'd like to check some of them out. Joe- Not at all sir, thanks very much for the link. I hope what I’m doing sells some Casanova’s for you…!

Warren- Could you recommend a few examples of such? We’ve probably got them in the store here even, I’d like to check some of them out.

]]> By: Joe http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/comment-page-1/#comment-132 Joe Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:45:50 +0000 http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/#comment-132 Chris, mate, these are some damned fine reviews. Like a lot of older readers I've slowly stopped picking up monthlies and going instead for collections, but this makes me wish I had picked Casanova up issue by issue. Hope you don't mind, I had to pinch a bit of one of your reviews for a quote on our blog to point folks over here to read the rest. Joe Chris, mate, these are some damned fine reviews. Like a lot of older readers I’ve slowly stopped picking up monthlies and going instead for collections, but this makes me wish I had picked Casanova up issue by issue. Hope you don’t mind, I had to pinch a bit of one of your reviews for a quote on our blog to point folks over here to read the rest.

Joe

]]> By: The Forbidden Planet International Blog Log » Casanova http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/comment-page-1/#comment-131 The Forbidden Planet International Blog Log » Casanova Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:44:02 +0000 http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/#comment-131 [...] Christopher Butcher has been posting some quite excellent and insightful reviews, issue by issue of Matt Fraction and Gabriel Ba’s Casanova (the third one has just gone up this week); I’m not going to try and paraphrase since he out together such damned fine reviews and will instead just quote a piece: “Casanova #1 is an object, an objet d’art if you will. It’s growing increasingly rare that the monthly comic pamphlet is meant to be read or purchased for any other reason than fanboy necessity: the need to know what happens to your beloved character next. That raises the question of why a non-superhero-oriented title, hell, a non-Marvel or DC title would bother being launched on a monthly basis at all? To side-step that issue entirely, I’ll say that when the book’s objectness, its ‘single-issueness’ is as considered and successful as this the “whys” are less important. In an industry where the importance of the non-superhero pamphlet had to be forcefully, aggressively reclaimed by oversized, dust-jacketed, thick-papered waves of comics (see: Ignatz), the idea of launching a new ongoing series of pamphlets needs an ideology: a manifesto. Casanova as a series is designed to be read an issue at a time, enjoyed an issue at a time, and then perhaps considered as a whole after the fact.” [...] [...] Christopher Butcher has been posting some quite excellent and insightful reviews, issue by issue of Matt Fraction and Gabriel Ba’s Casanova (the third one has just gone up this week); I’m not going to try and paraphrase since he out together such damned fine reviews and will instead just quote a piece: “Casanova #1 is an object, an objet d’art if you will. It’s growing increasingly rare that the monthly comic pamphlet is meant to be read or purchased for any other reason than fanboy necessity: the need to know what happens to your beloved character next. That raises the question of why a non-superhero-oriented title, hell, a non-Marvel or DC title would bother being launched on a monthly basis at all? To side-step that issue entirely, I’ll say that when the book’s objectness, its ‘single-issueness’ is as considered and successful as this the “whys” are less important. In an industry where the importance of the non-superhero pamphlet had to be forcefully, aggressively reclaimed by oversized, dust-jacketed, thick-papered waves of comics (see: Ignatz), the idea of launching a new ongoing series of pamphlets needs an ideology: a manifesto. Casanova as a series is designed to be read an issue at a time, enjoyed an issue at a time, and then perhaps considered as a whole after the fact.” [...]

]]> By: Warren Ellis http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/comment-page-1/#comment-127 Warren Ellis Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:56:47 +0000 http://comics212.net/2007/02/13/review-casanova-3/#comment-127 The page structure thing, I'm pretty sure, comes out of "classic years" Franco-Belgian, which tended towards four tiers without being dogmatic about it. The page structure thing, I’m pretty sure, comes out of “classic years” Franco-Belgian, which tended towards four tiers without being dogmatic about it.

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