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	<title>Comments on: The Only Thing Worse Than Being Talked About: Retail Theory</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2007/07/02/the-only-thing-worse-than-being-talked-about-retail-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-5657</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Leigh! Thanks for your comment.

As Markus mentioned, I was speaking specifically to event-driven superhero comics there, I suppose I could have been more clear. We watch our stocking levels pretty closely for the superhero stuff, and month-in, month-out, it sells about the same. The only time things really change is when there IS a huge buzz book, which means if we got caught short, chances are everyone did, and so the demand will ensure more are made available. I don&#039;t really ever expend second printings of anything from non-Marvel, non-DC publishers.

As for your larger point about the direct market retail base cutting their orders to the bone to take advantage of &#039;just in time&#039; reorders? Yes, you&#039;re absolutely correct. Most DM retailers are, frustratingly, taking inventory positions on almost nothing. Order one for the shelf, reorder when it sells out. As a publisher who needs high initial orders to justify a large print bill, that behaviour is maddening. I don&#039;t have a solution though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Leigh! Thanks for your comment.</p>
<p>As Markus mentioned, I was speaking specifically to event-driven superhero comics there, I suppose I could have been more clear. We watch our stocking levels pretty closely for the superhero stuff, and month-in, month-out, it sells about the same. The only time things really change is when there IS a huge buzz book, which means if we got caught short, chances are everyone did, and so the demand will ensure more are made available. I don&#8217;t really ever expend second printings of anything from non-Marvel, non-DC publishers.</p>
<p>As for your larger point about the direct market retail base cutting their orders to the bone to take advantage of &#8216;just in time&#8217; reorders? Yes, you&#8217;re absolutely correct. Most DM retailers are, frustratingly, taking inventory positions on almost nothing. Order one for the shelf, reorder when it sells out. As a publisher who needs high initial orders to justify a large print bill, that behaviour is maddening. I don&#8217;t have a solution though.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Leigh Walton
Huh? What indy series are driven by the media buzz for the shocking reveal?
I think the sentence you&#039;re quoting speaks directly to the utility of advance information on Marvel/DC stunts. As such it doesn&#039;t apply to other books, both Marvel/DC and other.
Also, there will usually be no second printing on sold out indy books, so any retailer assuming that about indy titles doesn&#039;t know much about them anyway and _that_ far more than his attitude is the likely cause should he be unable to sell indy titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leigh Walton<br />
Huh? What indy series are driven by the media buzz for the shocking reveal?<br />
I think the sentence you&#8217;re quoting speaks directly to the utility of advance information on Marvel/DC stunts. As such it doesn&#8217;t apply to other books, both Marvel/DC and other.<br />
Also, there will usually be no second printing on sold out indy books, so any retailer assuming that about indy titles doesn&#8217;t know much about them anyway and _that_ far more than his attitude is the likely cause should he be unable to sell indy titles.</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; July 3, 2007: Shorter Journalista 13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; July 3, 2007: Shorter Journalista 13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comics industry wonkfest! Tom Spurgeon talks industry issues; retailer Christopher Butcher responds in two mini-essays (part one, part two); Alan David Doane offers additional commentary. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Comics industry wonkfest! Tom Spurgeon talks industry issues; retailer Christopher Butcher responds in two mini-essays (part one, part two); Alan David Doane offers additional commentary. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Walton</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2007/07/02/the-only-thing-worse-than-being-talked-about-retail-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-5597</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If we sell out, thereâ€™ll be a second printing. If we donâ€™t, then it wonâ€™t have mattered what the big deal is. Win-win!&quot;

I share your apathy toward corporate superhero books, but something smells fishy about the logic of this statement. Don&#039;t many retailers take precisely this attitude toward indie comics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If we sell out, thereâ€™ll be a second printing. If we donâ€™t, then it wonâ€™t have mattered what the big deal is. Win-win!&#8221;</p>
<p>I share your apathy toward corporate superhero books, but something smells fishy about the logic of this statement. Don&#8217;t many retailers take precisely this attitude toward indie comics?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2007/07/02/the-only-thing-worse-than-being-talked-about-retail-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-5585</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;m not really sure what I&#039;m allowed to say about Marvel&#039;s online practices, their threatening e-mails every week are a little vague about that...

As for the books not being for resale? News to me. I know that we weren&#039;t supposed to sell them before their street date (and unlike the folks in Alan&#039;s description, we didn&#039;t) but I can&#039;t remember ever being told that the bunches of comics we received through the first look, identical to regular product, couldn&#039;t be sold... Hmm.

We never received anything stickered from Marvel, but like I said, our participation was really spotty in their part of the program.

As for piracy? Dude, you can download every comic in last week&#039;s Marvel first look if you look around. It&#039;s... it&#039;s really annoying that Marvel approached us with the stick on this one and it&#039;s pretty clear that the books are gonna show up online... or in this case, on the AP newswire... whether we did anything or not.

- Christopher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;m not really sure what I&#8217;m allowed to say about Marvel&#8217;s online practices, their threatening e-mails every week are a little vague about that&#8230;</p>
<p>As for the books not being for resale? News to me. I know that we weren&#8217;t supposed to sell them before their street date (and unlike the folks in Alan&#8217;s description, we didn&#8217;t) but I can&#8217;t remember ever being told that the bunches of comics we received through the first look, identical to regular product, couldn&#8217;t be sold&#8230; Hmm.</p>
<p>We never received anything stickered from Marvel, but like I said, our participation was really spotty in their part of the program.</p>
<p>As for piracy? Dude, you can download every comic in last week&#8217;s Marvel first look if you look around. It&#8217;s&#8230; it&#8217;s really annoying that Marvel approached us with the stick on this one and it&#8217;s pretty clear that the books are gonna show up online&#8230; or in this case, on the AP newswire&#8230; whether we did anything or not.</p>
<p>- Christopher</p>
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		<title>By: Don MacPherson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion re: the First Looks. I&#039;m pleased you and Alan have brought this to the attention of the marketplace.

I note that on his blog, Alan refers to having purchased First Looks books from a retailer years ago, and you mention that with the now-defunct DC program, you&#039;d at least get some cheap product to sell. If memory serves from my dealings with retailers, I believe the First Looks/Sneak Peeks were earmarked by the publishers as specifically not for resale (a la promotional copy of a CD release). For a while there, one of the publishers (Marvel, I think) even stickered some First Look books as being &quot;not for resale.&quot;

I&#039;m not taking issue with the practice of selling &quot;not for sale&quot; products. It&#039;s ridiculous of publishers to expect that when it comes to products they&#039;ve helped to market as &quot;collectibles.&quot;

It&#039;s also worthy of note that Marvel did offer digital, online previews of many upcoming releases through Diamond&#039;s retailer website. I don&#039;t know if this practice continues today; perhaps it was discontinued given concerns over piracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion re: the First Looks. I&#8217;m pleased you and Alan have brought this to the attention of the marketplace.</p>
<p>I note that on his blog, Alan refers to having purchased First Looks books from a retailer years ago, and you mention that with the now-defunct DC program, you&#8217;d at least get some cheap product to sell. If memory serves from my dealings with retailers, I believe the First Looks/Sneak Peeks were earmarked by the publishers as specifically not for resale (a la promotional copy of a CD release). For a while there, one of the publishers (Marvel, I think) even stickered some First Look books as being &#8220;not for resale.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not taking issue with the practice of selling &#8220;not for sale&#8221; products. It&#8217;s ridiculous of publishers to expect that when it comes to products they&#8217;ve helped to market as &#8220;collectibles.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worthy of note that Marvel did offer digital, online previews of many upcoming releases through Diamond&#8217;s retailer website. I don&#8217;t know if this practice continues today; perhaps it was discontinued given concerns over piracy.</p>
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