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	<title>Comments on: Sidetracked: Let&#8217;s talk about comics shops.</title>
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		<title>By: Tivome</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2007/09/11/sidetracked-lets-talk-about-comics-shops/comment-page-1/#comment-13249</link>
		<dc:creator>Tivome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, first of all, Animate is NOT a comic book store - it&#039;s mainly an anime shop for the otakus.  They have floors which are dedicated to comic books, but mostly doujinshi and not-so-mainstream stuff.  A lot of them are not for the kiddies.  The rest of the animate is for anime DVD, figurines, assorted otaku-culture items, and games.  It&#039;s a super-store for the otaku.ã€€ã€€

Chris, the store you went to in Akiba is &quot;Tora no Ana&quot; or Tiger&#039;s Lair.  It&#039;s a store famous for it&#039;s massive doushinji collection, so that&#039;s why it&#039;s all just porn to you.  They&#039;re mostly works drawn by amatures and first sold in Comic Market; stores like Tora no Ana and Animate then carry them for the rest of the year. Again, not exclusively comics, but TnA is more famously associated with doujinshi.

http://www.animate-world.com/
http://www.toranoana.co.jp/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, first of all, Animate is NOT a comic book store &#8211; it&#8217;s mainly an anime shop for the otakus.  They have floors which are dedicated to comic books, but mostly doujinshi and not-so-mainstream stuff.  A lot of them are not for the kiddies.  The rest of the animate is for anime DVD, figurines, assorted otaku-culture items, and games.  It&#8217;s a super-store for the otaku.ã€€ã€€</p>
<p>Chris, the store you went to in Akiba is &#8220;Tora no Ana&#8221; or Tiger&#8217;s Lair.  It&#8217;s a store famous for it&#8217;s massive doushinji collection, so that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s all just porn to you.  They&#8217;re mostly works drawn by amatures and first sold in Comic Market; stores like Tora no Ana and Animate then carry them for the rest of the year. Again, not exclusively comics, but TnA is more famously associated with doujinshi.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.animate-world.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.animate-world.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.toranoana.co.jp/" rel="nofollow">http://www.toranoana.co.jp/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Halliday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halliday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris&gt;Which floor do they keep the jizz covered gashapon on?</description>
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		<title>By: Abhay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes: there&#039;s porn/strange-imagery everywhere, not just in the comic shops, if anyone thought I was implying it was ... comic&#039;s fault or something. I wasn&#039;t there long enough to guess what it &quot;means&quot; or what judgment if any should be passed. But: yeah, I&#039;m a prude and it made me hella-squeamish. Anyways: I&#039;m enjoying the photo essays; thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes: there&#8217;s porn/strange-imagery everywhere, not just in the comic shops, if anyone thought I was implying it was &#8230; comic&#8217;s fault or something. I wasn&#8217;t there long enough to guess what it &#8220;means&#8221; or what judgment if any should be passed. But: yeah, I&#8217;m a prude and it made me hella-squeamish. Anyways: I&#8217;m enjoying the photo essays; thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abhay- Dude you know there&#039;s porn here everywhere. I went to a store in Akihabara called Comic No Tora that fits the experience you describe. Comics, comics, comics, PORN!!!! for 4 floors. I can understand how that makes you squeamish, but porn comics are still comics, it&#039;s still just product and there are plenty of &#039;actual&#039; porn stores kicking around too. Granted, the subjects of the porn are generally a little more extreme than you find in porn comics here (ok: much more extreme. MUCH.) but... again, if that&#039;s what Japan has decided is okay for their market, then I&#039;ve got no problem with retailers deciding to make a buck off it. For example: Right Now I am eating French Consume flavoured Pringles, and I can&#039;t tell if they&#039;re good, bad, or simply never should have been a flavour of potato chips. But I don&#039;t really care that they&#039;re being sold...



Pakaal- I&#039;m pretty sure what you&#039;re saying is exactly what I wrote, except for the &quot;injustice&quot; part which seems a little hyperbolic to me. My point is that comics HAVE entered the mainstream here, and are available everywhere. But, despite that, there is still a clear need for dedicated comics stores. There&#039;s an idea that comic stores are what is &quot;holding back&quot; comics from entering the mainstream, but really if that were the case, there would be no comic stores in Japan, Hong Kong, France, the Netherlands, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abhay- Dude you know there&#8217;s porn here everywhere. I went to a store in Akihabara called Comic No Tora that fits the experience you describe. Comics, comics, comics, PORN!!!! for 4 floors. I can understand how that makes you squeamish, but porn comics are still comics, it&#8217;s still just product and there are plenty of &#8216;actual&#8217; porn stores kicking around too. Granted, the subjects of the porn are generally a little more extreme than you find in porn comics here (ok: much more extreme. MUCH.) but&#8230; again, if that&#8217;s what Japan has decided is okay for their market, then I&#8217;ve got no problem with retailers deciding to make a buck off it. For example: Right Now I am eating French Consume flavoured Pringles, and I can&#8217;t tell if they&#8217;re good, bad, or simply never should have been a flavour of potato chips. But I don&#8217;t really care that they&#8217;re being sold&#8230;</p>
<p>Pakaal- I&#8217;m pretty sure what you&#8217;re saying is exactly what I wrote, except for the &#8220;injustice&#8221; part which seems a little hyperbolic to me. My point is that comics HAVE entered the mainstream here, and are available everywhere. But, despite that, there is still a clear need for dedicated comics stores. There&#8217;s an idea that comic stores are what is &#8220;holding back&#8221; comics from entering the mainstream, but really if that were the case, there would be no comic stores in Japan, Hong Kong, France, the Netherlands, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: pakaal</title>
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		<dc:creator>pakaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had to point out that comparing Japan&#039;s manga stores to US comics stores is a bit of an injustice. I don&#039;t remember the statistics but I guarantee you there&#039;s a double digit difference in the percentage of people in the US who read comics, and those in Japan who read manga. Japan doesn&#039;t suffer from the same &quot;comics are for kids&quot; stigma that still pervades the US. With the rise of indy publishers and titles in the US we&#039;re starting to crack the mainstream market, but we&#039;ve got a long way to go before we&#039;ll see the average guy on the subway in the US reading a comic book, whereas it&#039;s almost impossible in Japan to find someone NOT reading one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had to point out that comparing Japan&#8217;s manga stores to US comics stores is a bit of an injustice. I don&#8217;t remember the statistics but I guarantee you there&#8217;s a double digit difference in the percentage of people in the US who read comics, and those in Japan who read manga. Japan doesn&#8217;t suffer from the same &#8220;comics are for kids&#8221; stigma that still pervades the US. With the rise of indy publishers and titles in the US we&#8217;re starting to crack the mainstream market, but we&#8217;ve got a long way to go before we&#8217;ll see the average guy on the subway in the US reading a comic book, whereas it&#8217;s almost impossible in Japan to find someone NOT reading one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EIGHT floors??
Holy christ...that is like, comic HEAVEN even if I&#039;m not into the Manga stuff. All the pictures you&#039;ve shown by the way are brilliant. I can&#039;t believe all the awesomeness Japan has to offer. I&#039;d be in a jaw dropping induced stupor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EIGHT floors??<br />
Holy christ&#8230;that is like, comic HEAVEN even if I&#8217;m not into the Manga stuff. All the pictures you&#8217;ve shown by the way are brilliant. I can&#8217;t believe all the awesomeness Japan has to offer. I&#8217;d be in a jaw dropping induced stupor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sept. 12, 2007: Dollman steals dentures</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sept. 12, 2007: Dollman steals dentures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;I am in Japan, and there are comic book stores everywhere.&#8221; - Christopher Butcher [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;I am in Japan, and there are comic book stores everywhere.&#8221; &#8211; Christopher Butcher [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Abhay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 06:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t go into an Animate store, and maybe I went into the wrong place-- but the comic store I went into in Tokyo was amazing and heartening and whatever for floors 1-to-3, then the most horrifying numbing cartoon porn imaginable for floors 4-to-I-can&#039;t take-this-anymore. I don&#039;t know. I had very mixed feelings because of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t go into an Animate store, and maybe I went into the wrong place&#8211; but the comic store I went into in Tokyo was amazing and heartening and whatever for floors 1-to-3, then the most horrifying numbing cartoon porn imaginable for floors 4-to-I-can&#8217;t take-this-anymore. I don&#8217;t know. I had very mixed feelings because of that.</p>
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