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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts on Tokyopop&#8217;s Contractions</title>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; June 4, 2008: Brian Braddock does not like Mondays</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-72545</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; June 4, 2008: Brian Braddock does not like Mondays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For sensible commentary on Tokyopop&#8217;s possible motives and business strategy, here&#8217;s Christopher Butcher (this one&#8217;s the must-read), Matt Blind and Simon Jones. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For sensible commentary on Tokyopop&#8217;s possible motives and business strategy, here&#8217;s Christopher Butcher (this one&#8217;s the must-read), Matt Blind and Simon Jones. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Homo Sum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sunday night quick book links</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-71606</link>
		<dc:creator>Homo Sum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sunday night quick book links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hope&#8217;s husband, indie comics golden boy (and former HGPA member), Bryan Lee O&#8217;Malley had an interesting rant on the TokyoPop Manga Pilot contract. Great fun to read. An even better read on the same subject though, comes from Toronto comics retailer&#8211;and former O&#8217;Malley roommate&#8211;Christopher Butcher. And, actually, he hits it again later. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hope&#8217;s husband, indie comics golden boy (and former HGPA member), Bryan Lee O&#8217;Malley had an interesting rant on the TokyoPop Manga Pilot contract. Great fun to read. An even better read on the same subject though, comes from Toronto comics retailer&#8211;and former O&#8217;Malley roommate&#8211;Christopher Butcher. And, actually, he hits it again later. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: a geek by any other name &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Facepalm Alert: No Kodansha Pub In the Works&#8230;Probably</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-71521</link>
		<dc:creator>a geek by any other name &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Facepalm Alert: No Kodansha Pub In the Works&#8230;Probably</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kokmen apparently told DMV that he had no knowledge of any new publisher in the works from Kodansha, and that Del Rey actually had people in Japan setting up contracts through 2010 at that very moment. Now, theoretically Kodansha could still be working something up without Del Rey&#8217;s knowledge, but it does throw off the original report that Kodansha is &#8220;aggressively cutting off the[ir] existing contracts,&#8221; which kind of makes the whole thing a bit suspect. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kokmen apparently told DMV that he had no knowledge of any new publisher in the works from Kodansha, and that Del Rey actually had people in Japan setting up contracts through 2010 at that very moment. Now, theoretically Kodansha could still be working something up without Del Rey&#8217;s knowledge, but it does throw off the original report that Kodansha is &#8220;aggressively cutting off the[ir] existing contracts,&#8221; which kind of makes the whole thing a bit suspect. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Thomas</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-71086</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to find more news on this, but no bites on my lines. Anyone heard anything more substantial than mysterious Cthulhu&#039;s post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to find more news on this, but no bites on my lines. Anyone heard anything more substantial than mysterious Cthulhu&#8217;s post?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim E</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70966</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck to Kodansha. TP&#039;s restructuring is more about the drop in sales than about Kodansha&#039;s pulling titles. My perception is that KD is arriving a bit late for the dance. They can only hope that the carriage doesn&#039;t turn into a pumpkin with one foot out the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck to Kodansha. TP&#8217;s restructuring is more about the drop in sales than about Kodansha&#8217;s pulling titles. My perception is that KD is arriving a bit late for the dance. They can only hope that the carriage doesn&#8217;t turn into a pumpkin with one foot out the door.</p>
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		<title>By: a geek by any other name &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rumor Alert: Kodansha to Start Own US Manga Pub?</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70946</link>
		<dc:creator>a geek by any other name &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rumor Alert: Kodansha to Start Own US Manga Pub?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now HERE is the most interesting rumor I&#8217;ve yet heard come out of the whole TOKYOPOP thing: in the comments of Chris Butcher&#8217;s thoughts on the matter a person going by Cthulhu who claims to be an industry insider pronounces that Kodansha is going to start its own manga publisher in the US, bypassing both Del Rey&#8211; who has benefitted greatly from their deal with Kodansha, one of the big three in Japan &#8211;and all the other US publishers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now HERE is the most interesting rumor I&#8217;ve yet heard come out of the whole TOKYOPOP thing: in the comments of Chris Butcher&#8217;s thoughts on the matter a person going by Cthulhu who claims to be an industry insider pronounces that Kodansha is going to start its own manga publisher in the US, bypassing both Del Rey&#8211; who has benefitted greatly from their deal with Kodansha, one of the big three in Japan &#8211;and all the other US publishers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70936</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if the timing mentioned here is right, but I have heard similar rumblings about Kodansha. A rumor is just a rumor is just a rumor until it&#039;s proven true, but just throwing another &quot;Yeah, I&#039;ve previously heard something about this once&quot; on the pile. 

In other news, sad to see how the TP reorg is shaking out and creatives losing their job. I have a creator friend who is currently working on an amazing debut GN for them, and I&#039;ll be really really freakin&#039; bummed if it gets the chop.

-Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if the timing mentioned here is right, but I have heard similar rumblings about Kodansha. A rumor is just a rumor is just a rumor until it&#8217;s proven true, but just throwing another &#8220;Yeah, I&#8217;ve previously heard something about this once&#8221; on the pile. </p>
<p>In other news, sad to see how the TP reorg is shaking out and creatives losing their job. I have a creator friend who is currently working on an amazing debut GN for them, and I&#8217;ll be really really freakin&#8217; bummed if it gets the chop.</p>
<p>-Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Blog@Newsarama &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Still more on Tokyopop</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70931</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog@Newsarama &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Still more on Tokyopop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chris Butcher: A reorganization is considerably better than bankruptcy protection, and I know a few people who thought that was what was coming down the pipe. Which isnâ€™t to say that it wonâ€™t, but it hasnâ€™t, and thereâ€™s a big difference. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chris Butcher: A reorganization is considerably better than bankruptcy protection, and I know a few people who thought that was what was coming down the pipe. Which isnâ€™t to say that it wonâ€™t, but it hasnâ€™t, and thereâ€™s a big difference. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rumors on the internets</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70900</link>
		<dc:creator>MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rumors on the internets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let&#8217;s start with the latest anonymous rumor to hit the internets, shall we? Someone going by the handle of Cthulhu, who claims to be an industry insider, posted this comment on Comics212 last night:  Kodansha is forming their own manga publishing biz over here and says they will no longer be licensing to Del Rey or Dark Horse or anyone else. In fact, they are aggressively cutting off the existing contracts and at least one company had to make a panicked phone call to their printer to cancel several dozen reprints. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Let&#8217;s start with the latest anonymous rumor to hit the internets, shall we? Someone going by the handle of Cthulhu, who claims to be an industry insider, posted this comment on Comics212 last night:  Kodansha is forming their own manga publishing biz over here and says they will no longer be licensing to Del Rey or Dark Horse or anyone else. In fact, they are aggressively cutting off the existing contracts and at least one company had to make a panicked phone call to their printer to cancel several dozen reprints. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cthulhu</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70849</link>
		<dc:creator>Cthulhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait and see.
Goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait and see.<br />
Goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Blind</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70848</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Blind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. sure, I&#039;m wrong
2. why would I know anything about Kodansha?  I&#039;m  a bookseller based in the US; I only know them through their licensees, plus whatever I can find online.

I claim no special knowledge, but at least I post under my own name (and yes, Blind is my last name, the one I was born with, damn me, not a pseudonym or handle) and I&#039;m not sure how an &#039;announcement&#039; of Kodansha&#039;s new venture was meant to help Tokyopop refugees when you provide no details.

I&#039;m a blogger, with a link:
here ya go:
http://www.comicsnob.com

And when I talk about the US retail market, or book stores, or comic sales -- my only claim is that I do this for a living.

If you insist:  Hi, My name is Matt Blind and I am currently employed as a store manager for Barnes &amp; Noble at their Buckhead location -- that&#039;s 2900 Peachtree Road, Atlanta GA 30305.  I sell books for a living.  

Your credentials, sir (or madam)?

[if you have time to argue with me, then I can only assume that you&#039;ve enough free time to substantiate  your claims to date]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. sure, I&#8217;m wrong<br />
2. why would I know anything about Kodansha?  I&#8217;m  a bookseller based in the US; I only know them through their licensees, plus whatever I can find online.</p>
<p>I claim no special knowledge, but at least I post under my own name (and yes, Blind is my last name, the one I was born with, damn me, not a pseudonym or handle) and I&#8217;m not sure how an &#8216;announcement&#8217; of Kodansha&#8217;s new venture was meant to help Tokyopop refugees when you provide no details.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a blogger, with a link:<br />
here ya go:<br />
<a href="http://www.comicsnob.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.comicsnob.com</a></p>
<p>And when I talk about the US retail market, or book stores, or comic sales &#8212; my only claim is that I do this for a living.</p>
<p>If you insist:  Hi, My name is Matt Blind and I am currently employed as a store manager for Barnes &amp; Noble at their Buckhead location &#8212; that&#8217;s 2900 Peachtree Road, Atlanta GA 30305.  I sell books for a living.  </p>
<p>Your credentials, sir (or madam)?</p>
<p>[if you have time to argue with me, then I can only assume that you've enough free time to substantiate  your claims to date]</p>
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		<title>By: Cthulhu</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70846</link>
		<dc:creator>Cthulhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, you are wrong, apparently know little to nothing about Kodansha&#039;s business setup, and I expect an apology when their separate manga division goes on line.  I probably said too much, anyway.  I just felt sorry for the poor folks who lost their jobs at Tokyopop and hoped this might be somewhere they could look for work once it&#039;s all official. I&#039;m done commenting, although I&#039;ll be checking back for The All-Knowing and All-seeing Blind One to grovel, unless he plans to whisper his apology in a toilet stall somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, you are wrong, apparently know little to nothing about Kodansha&#8217;s business setup, and I expect an apology when their separate manga division goes on line.  I probably said too much, anyway.  I just felt sorry for the poor folks who lost their jobs at Tokyopop and hoped this might be somewhere they could look for work once it&#8217;s all official. I&#8217;m done commenting, although I&#8217;ll be checking back for The All-Knowing and All-seeing Blind One to grovel, unless he plans to whisper his apology in a toilet stall somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Blind</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70831</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Blind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, the Kodansha International website -- updated as recently as this past Sunday, has nothing to say on severing current arrangements, or new businesses, or manga at all really:

http://www.kodansha-intl.com/

Kodansha Intl. --as their current and ongoing English-language publishing apparatus, and with established distribution arrangements and a long back list, is presumably the platform from which they&#039;d launch a new manga imprint -- and yet, I don&#039;t see crap. Hadn&#039;t heard anything from BEA either.  Perhaps the new corporate communications strategy is to only whisper important news in bathroom stalls, and not write up press releases for, dare I say, release to the press -- let alone the web or even on one&#039;s own web site.

Chris, I apologise for dropping so much sarcasm in your comments, but Cthulhu (despite his powers as an elder god and eldrich horror) seems to be speaking out of his ass on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, the Kodansha International website &#8212; updated as recently as this past Sunday, has nothing to say on severing current arrangements, or new businesses, or manga at all really:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kodansha-intl.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kodansha-intl.com/</a></p>
<p>Kodansha Intl. &#8211;as their current and ongoing English-language publishing apparatus, and with established distribution arrangements and a long back list, is presumably the platform from which they&#8217;d launch a new manga imprint &#8212; and yet, I don&#8217;t see crap. Hadn&#8217;t heard anything from BEA either.  Perhaps the new corporate communications strategy is to only whisper important news in bathroom stalls, and not write up press releases for, dare I say, release to the press &#8212; let alone the web or even on one&#8217;s own web site.</p>
<p>Chris, I apologise for dropping so much sarcasm in your comments, but Cthulhu (despite his powers as an elder god and eldrich horror) seems to be speaking out of his ass on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Cthulhu</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70823</link>
		<dc:creator>Cthulhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more note: Kodansha plans to begin full scale operation in September 2008, out of Los Angeles, where they will be sharing space and staff with a multimedia division.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more note: Kodansha plans to begin full scale operation in September 2008, out of Los Angeles, where they will be sharing space and staff with a multimedia division.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Williams</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70821</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just talking out of you know where, but I wonder if hitting the dead spot in the Naruto cycle and still putting all those books out in one big chunk was a bad move. I know their problems are bigger than that but maybe they messed with the golden goose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just talking out of you know where, but I wonder if hitting the dead spot in the Naruto cycle and still putting all those books out in one big chunk was a bad move. I know their problems are bigger than that but maybe they messed with the golden goose.</p>
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		<title>By: Cthulhu</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70818</link>
		<dc:creator>Cthulhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have hesitated to get involved in this (I am a LONG TIME member of the manga biz) but since Chris has actually written something sensible on teh internets regarding the TP situation, I want to add an important event that has, as far as I can tell, gone practically unreported.
Kodansha is forming their own manga publishing biz over here and says they will no longer be licensing to Del Rey or Dark Horse or anyone else.  In fact, they are aggressively cutting off the existing contracts and at least one company had to make a panicked phone call to their printer to cancel several dozen reprints.
This has been in the wind for a couple weeks but it should have leaked out from the BEA, since it was openly announced there.  Oddly, no one seems to be discussing it.
Chris, you can contact me at the &quot;disposable&quot; email addy I gave if you&#039;d like to check my bona fides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have hesitated to get involved in this (I am a LONG TIME member of the manga biz) but since Chris has actually written something sensible on teh internets regarding the TP situation, I want to add an important event that has, as far as I can tell, gone practically unreported.<br />
Kodansha is forming their own manga publishing biz over here and says they will no longer be licensing to Del Rey or Dark Horse or anyone else.  In fact, they are aggressively cutting off the existing contracts and at least one company had to make a panicked phone call to their printer to cancel several dozen reprints.<br />
This has been in the wind for a couple weeks but it should have leaked out from the BEA, since it was openly announced there.  Oddly, no one seems to be discussing it.<br />
Chris, you can contact me at the &#8220;disposable&#8221; email addy I gave if you&#8217;d like to check my bona fides.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70807</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Thanks so much for posting this. I can&#039;t stand ANN&#039;s forums sometimes- and I do agree about the issues with TP&#039;s porn-ridden, myspacestyle website. I don&#039;t doubt that the costs involved in the website&#039;s hosting and design fees would of been better spent on a simpler website with lots of product information and a smaller set of forums.

   You can&#039;t find info on upcoming titles [their schedule used to update pretty regularly, but I find it&#039;s often broken, missing info and a month or so behind what&#039;s in Previews, which hurts when ordering comics], and anything that could be productive is drowned in an excess of copyrightinfringement, tweeny whinging and high school fights [which is why I abandoned my blog there long, long ago].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Thanks so much for posting this. I can&#8217;t stand ANN&#8217;s forums sometimes- and I do agree about the issues with TP&#8217;s porn-ridden, myspacestyle website. I don&#8217;t doubt that the costs involved in the website&#8217;s hosting and design fees would of been better spent on a simpler website with lots of product information and a smaller set of forums.</p>
<p>   You can&#8217;t find info on upcoming titles [their schedule used to update pretty regularly, but I find it's often broken, missing info and a month or so behind what's in Previews, which hurts when ordering comics], and anything that could be productive is drowned in an excess of copyrightinfringement, tweeny whinging and high school fights [which is why I abandoned my blog there long, long ago].</p>
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		<title>By: Holy crap &#171; Precocious Curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70800</link>
		<dc:creator>Holy crap &#171; Precocious Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Holy&#160;crap Filed under: Linkblogging, Tokyopop &#8212; davidpwelsh @ 4:50 pm   You go offline for a freaking day because you don&#8217;t feel like giving a downer hotel one more red cent than you have to, and this happens. In addition to Brigid&#8217;s excellent coverage and link-tracking, I&#8217;d point with particular admiration at Chris Butcher&#8217;s analysis, and note that Heidi MacDonald succinctly underlines Tokyopop&#8217;s hyperactive unveiling of initiatives. And then there&#8217;s Tom Spurgeon: &#8220;In fact, you could look at Tokyopop as another specialty publisher having to make changes or risk dying off altogether, and not much of a unique news story at all.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Holy&nbsp;crap Filed under: Linkblogging, Tokyopop &#8212; davidpwelsh @ 4:50 pm   You go offline for a freaking day because you don&#8217;t feel like giving a downer hotel one more red cent than you have to, and this happens. In addition to Brigid&#8217;s excellent coverage and link-tracking, I&#8217;d point with particular admiration at Chris Butcher&#8217;s analysis, and note that Heidi MacDonald succinctly underlines Tokyopop&#8217;s hyperactive unveiling of initiatives. And then there&#8217;s Tom Spurgeon: &#8220;In fact, you could look at Tokyopop as another specialty publisher having to make changes or risk dying off altogether, and not much of a unique news story at all.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have such a wonderful blog. 

Part of me secretly wishes that you just spent all your time correcting people/meting justice, but I suspect the toll on your soul would be too great for one man to bear.

Anyway, thanks for always having something insightful/interesting to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have such a wonderful blog. </p>
<p>Part of me secretly wishes that you just spent all your time correcting people/meting justice, but I suspect the toll on your soul would be too great for one man to bear.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for always having something insightful/interesting to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat Kan</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70762</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat Kan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m adding my thanks here for a succinct and cogent explanation of what&#039;s going on.  I happen to like a lot of the OEL titles that TP has published; many of them are well-done.  Dramacon, anyone?  Steady Beat?  Sorcerers and Secretaries?  I&#039;ll just have to wait and see what happens as the months go by.  Thanks again, Chris!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m adding my thanks here for a succinct and cogent explanation of what&#8217;s going on.  I happen to like a lot of the OEL titles that TP has published; many of them are well-done.  Dramacon, anyone?  Steady Beat?  Sorcerers and Secretaries?  I&#8217;ll just have to wait and see what happens as the months go by.  Thanks again, Chris!</p>
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		<title>By: Lea Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lea Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu Levy staying at his own company depends entirely on how it&#039;s structured. If, for instance, there&#039;s someone holding the purse strings that could choose to replace Levy, well.
Gyah, I don&#039;t see how OEL could be cheaper to produce than translated manga, unless TP convinces creators to give up their rights for a buck, and draw for free. (You KNOW there are creators who&#039;d take that.)

TP stopped getting most of their better licenses when Kodansha made their deal with Del Rey.

As for the &quot;it&#039;s not real manga&quot; crap, we creators have learned to roll our eyes and move on. It seems a lot of people who say that are the same ones who sit on the floor at B&amp;N and read the manga and leave without buying. Trufans!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stu Levy staying at his own company depends entirely on how it&#8217;s structured. If, for instance, there&#8217;s someone holding the purse strings that could choose to replace Levy, well.<br />
Gyah, I don&#8217;t see how OEL could be cheaper to produce than translated manga, unless TP convinces creators to give up their rights for a buck, and draw for free. (You KNOW there are creators who&#8217;d take that.)</p>
<p>TP stopped getting most of their better licenses when Kodansha made their deal with Del Rey.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;it&#8217;s not real manga&#8221; crap, we creators have learned to roll our eyes and move on. It seems a lot of people who say that are the same ones who sit on the floor at B&amp;N and read the manga and leave without buying. Trufans!</p>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70754</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Cliff&#039;s Notes of the ANN boards! I knew I wasn&#039;t missing anything, but you squelched any curiosity I had.

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Cliff&#8217;s Notes of the ANN boards! I knew I wasn&#8217;t missing anything, but you squelched any curiosity I had.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70748</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I dont know nothing about this industry, just a fan that reads and happen to draw) I would guess what they mean by cheaper, is in the pay to artists to make them. But to promote them and publish them? I dont think they do make much money that licensed things do so in that case, its not cheaper. Of the few well selling oel manga, I dont see TP getting such a hopeful chance at another well selling oel now that their contracts are worse and if anyone is sending work to TP is going to be (knowingly) mediocre at best. 

As for the stupid comments online, I say most is just venting. I would wish that manga could be sold like walmart. This wont happen but to comments like these, it lets you know that people still do want comics, we just dont have money and its hurting all of us. So in a way, we kind of know that &#039;comics&#039; isnt the problem, its just everything else.

I&#039;m being paid 5.6$ an hour and all the money I&#039;m getting is to pay for college as since my dad is self employed (layed off), It&#039;s just HELL to get through government paper work. As more parents lose their income (since most of the manga market depends on their parents money) and most of us took just for a reason other then to buy manga.

Of all business moves and what not, sometimes TP&#039;s timing and PR is really off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I dont know nothing about this industry, just a fan that reads and happen to draw) I would guess what they mean by cheaper, is in the pay to artists to make them. But to promote them and publish them? I dont think they do make much money that licensed things do so in that case, its not cheaper. Of the few well selling oel manga, I dont see TP getting such a hopeful chance at another well selling oel now that their contracts are worse and if anyone is sending work to TP is going to be (knowingly) mediocre at best. </p>
<p>As for the stupid comments online, I say most is just venting. I would wish that manga could be sold like walmart. This wont happen but to comments like these, it lets you know that people still do want comics, we just dont have money and its hurting all of us. So in a way, we kind of know that &#8216;comics&#8217; isnt the problem, its just everything else.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m being paid 5.6$ an hour and all the money I&#8217;m getting is to pay for college as since my dad is self employed (layed off), It&#8217;s just HELL to get through government paper work. As more parents lose their income (since most of the manga market depends on their parents money) and most of us took just for a reason other then to buy manga.</p>
<p>Of all business moves and what not, sometimes TP&#8217;s timing and PR is really off.</p>
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		<title>By: Lissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your breakdown and insight is much appreciated! As is your braving of the ANN forums to troll around and respond here to some (idiotic at times) comments. They&#039;re thoughts and assumptions I&#039;m sure many are jumping to unfortunately, as often uneducated (and downright inconsiderate if you ask me...) as they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your breakdown and insight is much appreciated! As is your braving of the ANN forums to troll around and respond here to some (idiotic at times) comments. They&#8217;re thoughts and assumptions I&#8217;m sure many are jumping to unfortunately, as often uneducated (and downright inconsiderate if you ask me&#8230;) as they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigid</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2008/06/03/thoughts-on-tokyopop/comment-page-1/#comment-70717</link>
		<dc:creator>Brigid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points, Chris! You really put this in perspective.

I just want to add one thing, which is something that not too many people see: Those &quot;cine-manga&quot; sell like hotcakes through the Scholastic book fairsâ€”the Avatar one sold 500,000 copies. Granted the cover price is lower, and I don&#039;t know what the profit margin is on Scholastic sales (as opposed to bookstores and the direct market), but it could be that those despised OEL titles are subsidizing some of the weaker Japanese titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points, Chris! You really put this in perspective.</p>
<p>I just want to add one thing, which is something that not too many people see: Those &#8220;cine-manga&#8221; sell like hotcakes through the Scholastic book fairsâ€”the Avatar one sold 500,000 copies. Granted the cover price is lower, and I don&#8217;t know what the profit margin is on Scholastic sales (as opposed to bookstores and the direct market), but it could be that those despised OEL titles are subsidizing some of the weaker Japanese titles.</p>
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