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		<title>By: Manga Xanadu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week in Manga 10/24-10/30/09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manga Xanadu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week in Manga 10/24-10/30/09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to get more info on it with an interview with Garett Boast.  Chris Butcher of the Comics 212 blog wasn&#8217;t impressed with what he heard.  Mainly he takes issue with the apparent lack of a business plan, or even any [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to get more info on it with an interview with Garett Boast.  Chris Butcher of the Comics 212 blog wasn&#8217;t impressed with what he heard.  Mainly he takes issue with the apparent lack of a business plan, or even any [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His heart&#039;s in the right place, but I honestly can&#039;t see this venture being all that successful. There&#039;s so much professionally made manga out there that I can&#039;t imagine there being that much of an audience for doujinshi...I mean, if there was, wouldn&#039;t Antarctic Press have kept in that business, or wouldn&#039;t Studio Ironcat still be around? The spirit of it kind of reminds me of the anthology &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=direct&amp;issue=16403668962%201&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chibi Pop Manga&lt;/a&gt;, and that only lasted 9 issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His heart&#8217;s in the right place, but I honestly can&#8217;t see this venture being all that successful. There&#8217;s so much professionally made manga out there that I can&#8217;t imagine there being that much of an audience for doujinshi&#8230;I mean, if there was, wouldn&#8217;t Antarctic Press have kept in that business, or wouldn&#8217;t Studio Ironcat still be around? The spirit of it kind of reminds me of the anthology <a href="http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=direct&amp;issue=16403668962%201" rel="nofollow">Chibi Pop Manga</a>, and that only lasted 9 issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Shumaker</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2009/10/24/omg-just-take-a-basic-business-course-shojoberry/comment-page-1/#comment-112784</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou Shumaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of sounding like Grampa Simpson, back when Dungeons &amp; Dragons was the big thing, I met a number of guys who started gaming companies based on a single idea, only to run into the buzzsaw of reality. 

Big ideas, big plans, not a lot of follow through and many of them failed, leaving behind a lot of unsold product and hurt feelings.

So, if not for this guy, anyone else considering getting into the business really needs to take their time, ask questions, get quotes on printing and learn from others&#039; mistakes. 

A great idea isn&#039;t enough. It takes time, patience, and endurance to create anything worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of sounding like Grampa Simpson, back when Dungeons &amp; Dragons was the big thing, I met a number of guys who started gaming companies based on a single idea, only to run into the buzzsaw of reality. </p>
<p>Big ideas, big plans, not a lot of follow through and many of them failed, leaving behind a lot of unsold product and hurt feelings.</p>
<p>So, if not for this guy, anyone else considering getting into the business really needs to take their time, ask questions, get quotes on printing and learn from others&#8217; mistakes. </p>
<p>A great idea isn&#8217;t enough. It takes time, patience, and endurance to create anything worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista &#8211; the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Oct. 27, 2009: Raw materials</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2009/10/24/omg-just-take-a-basic-business-course-shojoberry/comment-page-1/#comment-112782</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalista &#8211; the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Oct. 27, 2009: Raw materials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Your raw materials cost is going to be half of your cover price? Really?&#8221; - Christopher Butcher [...]</description>
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		<title>By: THE BEAT &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kibbles &#8216;n&#8217; Bits 10/27/2009</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2009/10/24/omg-just-take-a-basic-business-course-shojoberry/comment-page-1/#comment-112781</link>
		<dc:creator>THE BEAT &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kibbles &#8216;n&#8217; Bits 10/27/2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] § Chris Butcher mildly suggests that possessing some knowledge of business is a good idea before launching a business. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Doraemon, Dragon Ball, and Domu &#171; MangaBlog</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2009/10/24/omg-just-take-a-basic-business-course-shojoberry/comment-page-1/#comment-112772</link>
		<dc:creator>Doraemon, Dragon Ball, and Domu &#171; MangaBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Butcher critiques the Shojoberry business model at Comic212, and he critiques it pretty hard. Read the comments for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rick Bradford</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2009/10/24/omg-just-take-a-basic-business-course-shojoberry/comment-page-1/#comment-112768</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know very little about the manga side of the industry, the work or its fans but I have to chuckle. This is a lot of hubbub over a publisher who&#039;s apparently prepared to only print between five and 25 copies of their project.

Here&#039;s another quote from the interview:
&quot;We have not taken the economic climate and health of the print magazine industry into account, primarily because this project does not have to be self sustaining initially.&quot;

Seems to me &quot;business plan&quot; doesn&#039;t necessarily even enter into the equation. That comment essentially says &quot;it&#039;s a fanzine sort of project but it would be cool if it started paying for itself at some point.&quot; Which he reiterates a bit later. This isn&#039;t an uncommon sentiment in the world of photocopier/POD publishing in general.

Really, all of the answers are in his response to the first interview question. 

But, again, I&#039;m not tuned to that community so I&#039;m probably speaking out of turn. But I wish the guy luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know very little about the manga side of the industry, the work or its fans but I have to chuckle. This is a lot of hubbub over a publisher who&#8217;s apparently prepared to only print between five and 25 copies of their project.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another quote from the interview:<br />
&#8220;We have not taken the economic climate and health of the print magazine industry into account, primarily because this project does not have to be self sustaining initially.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems to me &#8220;business plan&#8221; doesn&#8217;t necessarily even enter into the equation. That comment essentially says &#8220;it&#8217;s a fanzine sort of project but it would be cool if it started paying for itself at some point.&#8221; Which he reiterates a bit later. This isn&#8217;t an uncommon sentiment in the world of photocopier/POD publishing in general.</p>
<p>Really, all of the answers are in his response to the first interview question. </p>
<p>But, again, I&#8217;m not tuned to that community so I&#8217;m probably speaking out of turn. But I wish the guy luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! I heard about them a while ago and had many a palm-to-face moments when reading the About interview. I am looking forward to seeing what happens with them, but was more interested to hear what indie pubs like Simon (or Last Gasp or numerous others) would say about their &quot;approach&quot;.

As someone who does a zine/vanity project with friends, it&#039;s interesting (terrifying? hilarious?) to see the way other people approach their own pet projects.

Thanks Chris!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I heard about them a while ago and had many a palm-to-face moments when reading the About interview. I am looking forward to seeing what happens with them, but was more interested to hear what indie pubs like Simon (or Last Gasp or numerous others) would say about their &#8220;approach&#8221;.</p>
<p>As someone who does a zine/vanity project with friends, it&#8217;s interesting (terrifying? hilarious?) to see the way other people approach their own pet projects.</p>
<p>Thanks Chris!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2009/10/24/omg-just-take-a-basic-business-course-shojoberry/comment-page-1/#comment-112765</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In fact, the company we work with has *never* done any licensing to the US prior. Given their complete lack of expectations, we could have used a lot of colorful language and grandiose promises to get the licenses without money down. But research was done, math was crunched, a reasonable offer was made, and they accepted.&quot;

Simon, thanks a lot for your insight, I really appreciate it.

- Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In fact, the company we work with has *never* done any licensing to the US prior. Given their complete lack of expectations, we could have used a lot of colorful language and grandiose promises to get the licenses without money down. But research was done, math was crunched, a reasonable offer was made, and they accepted.&#8221;</p>
<p>Simon, thanks a lot for your insight, I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>- Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;when similarly small publishers take on projects and have No Idea what they’re doing, doesn’t that poison the ground for folks like you that approach these ideas in the future?

Hmm... honestly, that&#039;s hard to say.  I tend to think industry-soiling actions come from the top down, not from the bottom up.  But you&#039;re right, that&#039;s certainly always a possibility...

&gt;Hell, doesn’t that make approaching a Japanese publisher who’s taken a chance and been burned by an American company before much more difficult?

I&#039;m already assuming that Shojoberry won&#039;t be able to land a commercial license directly from Japan, at least not for a whole book (Shojoberry certainly wouldn&#039;t need it anyway), with the kinds of terms that trade publishers are used to.  Unless they&#039;re prepared for an exchange of monies beforehand.

Manga licensing has been around long enough that there&#039;s a common set of expectations.  There&#039;s always an advance.  The license is always limited to only a few years and must be renewed.  Books have to be published within a specific time frame and print run targets must be met.  I guess what I&#039;m saying is that Japanese companies overall already protect themselves quite well, and even if they were burned, the next person just has to come along with enough cash in hand, and everything will be fine again.  In this respect, poor licensing etiquette and commercial failure are not really the top concerns... it&#039;s everything in the unpredictable &quot;other&quot; category.  Such as doing something to a book that completely offends the artist, who may then swear never to allow another damn foreigner to handle his/her work again.  Companies don&#039;t take things personally, but artists/individuals do.

&gt;I mean, just reading your blog, you’ve floated low five-figure numbers for advances to Japanese publishers just to get a couple licenses, that can’t be because every working relationship with The West went swimmingly.

Yeah, it&#039;s pretty much standard by now.  But, at least in the specific genre we work in, we were not burdened with past licensing disasters.  In fact, the company we work with has *never* done any licensing to the US prior.  Given their complete lack of expectations, we could have used a lot of colorful language and grandiose promises to get the licenses without money down.  But research was done, math was crunched, a reasonable offer was made, and they accepted.  There was no back-and-forth negotiating on the offer at all, because they could see it was fair, based on realistic estimates, and minimized their risk.  We even send them a little extra along with the royalties every time; in turn, they always send manuscripts to us pre-scanned from the original art pieces.  So I think as long as there are people who make every effort to be upfront, the industry needn&#039;t worry too much about charlatanry from the fly-by-nights, or sincere miscalculations by the inexperienced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;when similarly small publishers take on projects and have No Idea what they’re doing, doesn’t that poison the ground for folks like you that approach these ideas in the future?</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; honestly, that&#8217;s hard to say.  I tend to think industry-soiling actions come from the top down, not from the bottom up.  But you&#8217;re right, that&#8217;s certainly always a possibility&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt;Hell, doesn’t that make approaching a Japanese publisher who’s taken a chance and been burned by an American company before much more difficult?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m already assuming that Shojoberry won&#8217;t be able to land a commercial license directly from Japan, at least not for a whole book (Shojoberry certainly wouldn&#8217;t need it anyway), with the kinds of terms that trade publishers are used to.  Unless they&#8217;re prepared for an exchange of monies beforehand.</p>
<p>Manga licensing has been around long enough that there&#8217;s a common set of expectations.  There&#8217;s always an advance.  The license is always limited to only a few years and must be renewed.  Books have to be published within a specific time frame and print run targets must be met.  I guess what I&#8217;m saying is that Japanese companies overall already protect themselves quite well, and even if they were burned, the next person just has to come along with enough cash in hand, and everything will be fine again.  In this respect, poor licensing etiquette and commercial failure are not really the top concerns&#8230; it&#8217;s everything in the unpredictable &#8220;other&#8221; category.  Such as doing something to a book that completely offends the artist, who may then swear never to allow another damn foreigner to handle his/her work again.  Companies don&#8217;t take things personally, but artists/individuals do.</p>
<p>&gt;I mean, just reading your blog, you’ve floated low five-figure numbers for advances to Japanese publishers just to get a couple licenses, that can’t be because every working relationship with The West went swimmingly.</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s pretty much standard by now.  But, at least in the specific genre we work in, we were not burdened with past licensing disasters.  In fact, the company we work with has *never* done any licensing to the US prior.  Given their complete lack of expectations, we could have used a lot of colorful language and grandiose promises to get the licenses without money down.  But research was done, math was crunched, a reasonable offer was made, and they accepted.  There was no back-and-forth negotiating on the offer at all, because they could see it was fair, based on realistic estimates, and minimized their risk.  We even send them a little extra along with the royalties every time; in turn, they always send manuscripts to us pre-scanned from the original art pieces.  So I think as long as there are people who make every effort to be upfront, the industry needn&#8217;t worry too much about charlatanry from the fly-by-nights, or sincere miscalculations by the inexperienced.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard- Flat out, your first bit where you think that it&#039;s &quot;reasonable&quot; to have materials costs higher than 50% of the cover (particularly for such a low-ticket item) shows that we&#039;re on very different pages. 

Even for a fanzine.

Even when, when asked directly, Boast can&#039;t come out and just say &quot;Yeah we&#039;re totally a fanzine&quot; without equivocating about &quot;intent&quot; or whatever. My beef is about a complete lack of acumen mixed with both hubris and pretension.

- Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard- Flat out, your first bit where you think that it&#8217;s &#8220;reasonable&#8221; to have materials costs higher than 50% of the cover (particularly for such a low-ticket item) shows that we&#8217;re on very different pages. </p>
<p>Even for a fanzine.</p>
<p>Even when, when asked directly, Boast can&#8217;t come out and just say &#8220;Yeah we&#8217;re totally a fanzine&#8221; without equivocating about &#8220;intent&#8221; or whatever. My beef is about a complete lack of acumen mixed with both hubris and pretension.</p>
<p>- Chris</p>
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		<title>By: howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interview states:

&quot;The magazine will likely not be available via newsstands, within any reasonable amount of time that is.&quot;

This states to me that a cover price which is 50% higher than the printing cost is possibly reasonable, since there is no store markeup.  

But this certainyl looks like a fanzine:

&quot;Yes, the price margin of offset printing decreases significantly with the number of copies printed, but we do not have a circulation of 10,000 yet. We don&#039;t have a circulation of 1,000 yet. This is print on demand.

If we only get five people interested in our first issue, we can print five copies, and it will have cost us $10 in supplies. (Offset printing would cost $978 for a 25-copy run... apparently that&#039;s the minimum qty they will do.)&quot;

So I&#039;m not really sure what your beef is with them.  Contacting doujinshi artists probably makes sense, since those are folks who are, essentially, producing fanzines in japan:

&quot;Our first path was to put feelers out to amateur manga-ka and/or doujinshi artists in an attempt to license them directly. We are still leaving this route open and are going to ramp up recruiting to see if any viable options come of it.&quot;

So, I&#039;m really not sure what your beef is with them.  You seem to be assuming that they are presenting themselves as big powerful, publishing moguls to Japanese publishers, which strikes me as quite a stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interview states:</p>
<p>&#8220;The magazine will likely not be available via newsstands, within any reasonable amount of time that is.&#8221;</p>
<p>This states to me that a cover price which is 50% higher than the printing cost is possibly reasonable, since there is no store markeup.  </p>
<p>But this certainyl looks like a fanzine:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, the price margin of offset printing decreases significantly with the number of copies printed, but we do not have a circulation of 10,000 yet. We don&#8217;t have a circulation of 1,000 yet. This is print on demand.</p>
<p>If we only get five people interested in our first issue, we can print five copies, and it will have cost us $10 in supplies. (Offset printing would cost $978 for a 25-copy run&#8230; apparently that&#8217;s the minimum qty they will do.)&#8221;</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not really sure what your beef is with them.  Contacting doujinshi artists probably makes sense, since those are folks who are, essentially, producing fanzines in japan:</p>
<p>&#8220;Our first path was to put feelers out to amateur manga-ka and/or doujinshi artists in an attempt to license them directly. We are still leaving this route open and are going to ramp up recruiting to see if any viable options come of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m really not sure what your beef is with them.  You seem to be assuming that they are presenting themselves as big powerful, publishing moguls to Japanese publishers, which strikes me as quite a stretch.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave- I guess. I kinda think that when something like this intended for the public fails, it poisons the well for people coming after too. If it was just a couple of folks sinking their savings in, fine, but encouraging submissions and building a staff and all that... and Trading Off Of The Name Of Another Publication as shamelessly as they&#039;ve been doing. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave- I guess. I kinda think that when something like this intended for the public fails, it poisons the well for people coming after too. If it was just a couple of folks sinking their savings in, fine, but encouraging submissions and building a staff and all that&#8230; and Trading Off Of The Name Of Another Publication as shamelessly as they&#8217;ve been doing. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon- You&#039;re a really small manga pub. But you do an incredibly professional job on your releases, you care about the material, and you&#039;ve managed to publish like 40 graphic novels and over 100 anthology issues, so you MUST know a thing or two about business by this point, right? So I&#039;m asking you, when similarly small publishers take on projects and have No Idea what they&#039;re doing, doesn&#039;t that poison the ground for folks like you that approach these ideas in the future? Hell, doesn&#039;t that make approaching a Japanese publisher who&#039;s taken a chance and been burned by an American company before much more difficult? I feel like when these guys fail, they&#039;re not just failing for themselves but poisoning the ground where they were so that nothing ever grows there again.

I mean, just reading your blog, you&#039;ve floated low five-figure numbers for advances to Japanese publishers just to get a couple licenses, that can&#039;t be because every working relationship with The West went swimmingly.

Oh, and? AND?! They&#039;re looking to fill in the gap left by Shojo Beat, a magazine full of the (many of) best-selling shojo manga in Japan, with a series of doujin? A magazine with a great staff of professional writers and editors with... a dude whose demonstrated grasp of grammar in that interview is shaky at best? 

I&#039;m all for scanlators and fans paying their dues, working hard, and crossing over and becoming pro. But this doesn&#039;t even have a whiff of that, so amateur is the intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon- You&#8217;re a really small manga pub. But you do an incredibly professional job on your releases, you care about the material, and you&#8217;ve managed to publish like 40 graphic novels and over 100 anthology issues, so you MUST know a thing or two about business by this point, right? So I&#8217;m asking you, when similarly small publishers take on projects and have No Idea what they&#8217;re doing, doesn&#8217;t that poison the ground for folks like you that approach these ideas in the future? Hell, doesn&#8217;t that make approaching a Japanese publisher who&#8217;s taken a chance and been burned by an American company before much more difficult? I feel like when these guys fail, they&#8217;re not just failing for themselves but poisoning the ground where they were so that nothing ever grows there again.</p>
<p>I mean, just reading your blog, you&#8217;ve floated low five-figure numbers for advances to Japanese publishers just to get a couple licenses, that can&#8217;t be because every working relationship with The West went swimmingly.</p>
<p>Oh, and? AND?! They&#8217;re looking to fill in the gap left by Shojo Beat, a magazine full of the (many of) best-selling shojo manga in Japan, with a series of doujin? A magazine with a great staff of professional writers and editors with&#8230; a dude whose demonstrated grasp of grammar in that interview is shaky at best? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for scanlators and fans paying their dues, working hard, and crossing over and becoming pro. But this doesn&#8217;t even have a whiff of that, so amateur is the intent.</p>
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		<title>By: dave merrill</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave merrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They won&#039;t listen, they have to find out for themselves. Eh, it&#039;s only their college fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They won&#8217;t listen, they have to find out for themselves. Eh, it&#8217;s only their college fund.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones</title>
		<link>http://comics212.net/2009/10/24/omg-just-take-a-basic-business-course-shojoberry/comment-page-1/#comment-112714</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I commend the reasons they&#039;re doing this, so I want to be nice and call it a &quot;zine with commercial aspirations.&quot;

Mr. Boast said he was part of a scanlation group in college, and I&#039;d wager that&#039;s probably the background of most of the contributors too.  So I want to see this happen.  The good side of me thinks scanlators who want to cross over to doing legitimate work is always a good thing.  The bad side of me is grinning with devilish delight at the thought of a scanlator being confronted with the harsh realities of publishing for the first time.  Doing things the hard way, doing things the right way... it makes people grow up real fast and changes world views, yeah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I commend the reasons they&#8217;re doing this, so I want to be nice and call it a &#8220;zine with commercial aspirations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Boast said he was part of a scanlation group in college, and I&#8217;d wager that&#8217;s probably the background of most of the contributors too.  So I want to see this happen.  The good side of me thinks scanlators who want to cross over to doing legitimate work is always a good thing.  The bad side of me is grinning with devilish delight at the thought of a scanlator being confronted with the harsh realities of publishing for the first time.  Doing things the hard way, doing things the right way&#8230; it makes people grow up real fast and changes world views, yeah?</p>
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