{"id":4900,"date":"2010-01-31T05:26:08","date_gmt":"2010-01-31T10:26:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/?p=4900"},"modified":"2010-01-31T05:33:05","modified_gmt":"2010-01-31T10:33:05","slug":"bluewater-follow-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/?p=4900","title":{"rendered":"Bluewater Follow-Up"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dave-co.com\/gutterzombie\/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=11432&amp;start=105#p130070\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I worked for them as a letterer at an embarrassingly low page rate. I took it to get some more superhero style stuff under my belt, hoping that I could at least use them as a springboard to get better work down the line.<\/p>\n<p>For the first two books, things went ok. However, on the next four, I had to send invoices up to six times with constant reminders in order to get paid. It was crazy how often someone could &#8220;lose&#8221; invoices or have them &#8220;caught by the spam filter&#8221;. After having waited about 6 months to get paid, I walked and stopped doing any work for them. They did eventually pay up, but it took a lot of effort to get them to do so.<\/p>\n<p>During the above situation, someone who&#8217;d worked on one of the books that I worked on contacted me to see if I&#8217;d been paid. He&#8217;d taken a back-end deal and was told that the book hadn&#8217;t made any money. I wasn&#8217;t surprised, to be honest &#8212; It didn&#8217;t seem like it was going to be a big seller. The person didn&#8217;t know much about how distribution worked and thought that it was a lie that Diamond was only giving about 40% of cover price, so I kind of dismissed his claims at first. Then he sent me a spreadsheet of expenses and income that he&#8217;d been sent from Bluewater and asked me to look over to see if it made sense. I was shocked to find that the cost of lettering was listed at TWICE what I was paid.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe there&#8217;s a logical explanation as to why the lettering cost was listed at twice what I was paid, but I can&#8217;t think of what it would be. What it looks like, to me, is number fudging.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; Ed Brisson, comics creator and small-press publisher<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So to reitterate: Most creatives working with Bluewater only get paid royalties once a book is profitable. But the accounting to determine whether or not a book is profitable is done by the publisher, and has allegedly been rigged in the publisher&#8217;s favour at least once. So to those last, few, desperate people defending the business practices of this company, it&#8217;s not just that you&#8217;re working for free to &#8216;get your name out there&#8217; which in this age of social media and webcomics is frankly ridiculous, but this publisher may actually be deliberately cheating you out of money that you would be owed. I would recommend, again, to any creator looking to &#8216;break into&#8217; comics, to find other routes than through the gutter.<\/p>\n<p>In a completely unrelated matter, in no way tied to the previous statement (particularly in a way that could get folks like Mr. Brisson in trouble vis a vis Bluewater&#8217;s constant legal threats), after consulting with my employer we&#8217;ve decided at The Beguiling to no longer carry Bluewater&#8217;s product. If a customer would like to pre-order Bluewater&#8217;s material with payment, we&#8217;ll honour that request, because we&#8217;re a full-service comic store. But frankly the idea of supporting this publisher with shelf copies (or making money ourselves off of these books) has become incredibly unappealing to us for a<em> variety<\/em> of reasons.<\/p>\n<p>For more on Bluewater Comics, check out <a href=\"http:\/\/www.icaruscomics.com\/wp_web\/?p=4021\" target=\"_blank\">Simon Jones<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.comicsreporter.com\/index.php\/newer_company_refutes_non_payment_claims\/\" target=\"_blank\">Tom Spurgeon<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/comicsworthreading.com\/2010\/01\/25\/why-i-wont-cover-bluewater\/\" target=\"_blank\">Johanna Draper Carlson<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/comicsworthreading.com\/2010\/01\/26\/more-bluewater-accusations-and-reactions\/\" target=\"_blank\">2<\/a>), and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/pwbeat.publishersweekly.com\/blog\/2010\/01\/26\/bluewater-finding-new-ways-not-to-pay-people\/\" target=\"_blank\">Heidi MacDonald<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Christopher, <em>&#8220;every bit helps,&#8221; said the old woman as she pissed into the sea.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From here: &#8220;I worked for them as a letterer at an embarrassingly low page rate. I took it to get some more superhero style stuff under my belt, hoping that I could at least use them as a springboard to get better work down the line. For the first two books, things went ok. However, &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/comics212.net\/?p=4900\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Bluewater Follow-Up&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4900","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-culture","category-comics-retailing"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4900","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4900"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4900\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4902,"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4900\/revisions\/4902"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4900"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4900"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comics212.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4900"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}