Actually, the problem is that Comic-Con isn’t big Enough.

So Heidi wrote this:

“From the other side, many con vets are just wondering when the Hollywood contingent of San Diego Comic-Con is going to do an “E3? and try to scale back. Our own concept of one possible course is that in a few years, Hollywood is going to wake up and wonder why they are spending so much money on giving fans tchatchkes and try to scale down to a press-only event, just like E3 tried to do.” – Heidi MacDonald

In case you’re not familiar, E3 is the electronic entertainment expo, and it’s been going on for 20+ years now, and it eventually grew to insane, mythological proportions. And then scaled back to a bland trade show that no one liked. And has in recent years started to ‘recapture’ a little of the old spend-like-money-is-going out-of-style glitz.

And, from everything I’ve heard from everyone who’s attended, Comic-Con already is the scaled-down, no one likes it that much version of E3. Seriously. It’s small-potatoes compared to the elevendy billion dollar a year video game business, in a convention centre it outgrew 4, maybe 5 years ago. In a city that fucking hates it. For the most part.

Go read this, it’s Jim Zubkavich’s (UDON) stunned reaction to his first visit to E3 a few years ago, which I believe is the last of the “big” E3 events. Jim is a guy who had been to San Diego, as well as tons of other big cons across North America, and E3 still blew him away:

http://zubkavich.livejournal.com/99785.html
http://zubkavich.livejournal.com/99931.html
http://zubkavich.livejournal.com/100132.html

Here’s a taste, for those of you reticent to click outgoing links:

“After hearing about how good the Sony party was each year at E3, I was eager to see it first hand. As it turned out, luck worked its magic and my boss had arranged a meeting for me with a Sony executive after a mutual friend recommended our studio for an upcoming video game based project. … The meeting went well. Feeling good about our interaction, I stuck my neck out a bit and mentioned the party. She had one invite left she could give me. She made me promise not to sell the invite or to try and bring extra people along. I agreed and she handed me a wristband. At that moment I wondered what the heck I’d gotten myself into.

That night, my media buddies who had invites of their own and I made our way to Dodgers Stadium. When we arrived, security checked our wristbands and gave us each a glass of champagne while they lead us to shuttle buses. We rode up the hill to a beautiful open field area decked out with giant colored circus-like tents. Our wristbands were checked again as we entered and they double-checked that we’d brought no recording devices or cameras. Once inside the grounds I got a real sense of the scope of this thing.

6 or 7 giant tents surrounding a large music area and stage made up the party grounds…

– Jim Zubkavich

The Sony Party rented Dogers Stadium and filled it with tents. And acrobats and performers. And grunge rockers too… go read the posts. It’s insane.

Even on it’s best day, the con parties at San Diego don’t compare to this.

And sure, that’s “just” the parties, that doesn’t say anything about the hall or guests or attractions or whatever. But really, what I’m trying to point out here is MONEY. How much do you think it costs to throw that party in a rented Dogers Stadium? 500 grand? A million? 2? Do… do you think people care? Do you think Sony cares? No, it’s 2 million dolars, Sony made a lot of fucking money last year. And as elaborate as the booths at Comic-Con get, not a one of them is even close to the cost of what companies spent on booths at E3. Those video game booths are almost a million bucks a pop at Comic-Con, and BIGGER at E3. What if the DC booth was 4 times the size it currently is, would it seem so fucking crowded all the time? What if Marvel actually put together a real booth one year? What if Sony spent the same on their Comic-Con booth as they spent on their E3 booth? HOLY SHIT.

I got news for you, for a major media conglomerate having a bunch of model/actors standing around handing out tchochkes for 5 days IS the chump-change. These people go to lunch and it costs $900. If no one drinks.

300,000 people show up over 3 days for COMIKET at Tokyo Big Sight, a fan-run and fan-oriented convention on an island floating in the middle of Tokyo bay. ONLY 150,000 people show up, over 5 days for Comic-Con, the biggest consumer pop-culture event in a country with over twice the population.

The reason San Diego is a crowded, sweaty, overpopulated mess is because they’re thinking small. In my ever-humble opinion, they really oughtta realize that they stopped being a Comic-Con a long, long time ago,  and move to accommodate the show that they’ve become. Because I can’t imagine ANYONE is happy with how things are going now? Fuck, where’s the grandeur, the innovation, the VISION? Make it happen people!

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So yeah, book that bullshit baseball stadium next door for the weekend for the nerds, figure out a way to put up tents and carpetting in their giant parking lot. There’s a park behind the Convention Centre that’s at least as big as the convention centre itself. TENT THAT SHIT. Run a ferry between the two points.

And if you think for a second, for a moment, that this is too expensive? Remember the Sony Party at E3 4 years ago.  And remember that someone, somewhere, is paying $2.2 Million for a private concert by George Michael. Those people HAVE MONEY, you just need to learn where they are and get them hooked on comics or video games. I can personally recommend Scott Pilgrim.

– Christopher
Seriously: Microsoft & NBC Present: COMIC-CON AT PETCO PARK! Featuring X-Box 360 and the casts of THE OFFICE and 30 ROCK. That’d fill a baseball stadium.

13 Replies to “Actually, the problem is that Comic-Con isn’t big Enough.”

  1. Great post, Chris. But two points, just as FYIs: #1 — the show is maxed out at 125,000 because of the size of the convention center. The show would already be way bigger this year were it not for that.

    #2, WB did rent out Petco park a couple of eyars ago for their 300/Blade Runner event. Not quite like the E3 party, though.

    Otherwise, a welcome dose of perspective.

  2. chris,

    where did you get the idea that san diego hates the con? it loves the con…it fought to keep the con.

    and i have to disagree with ms mcdonald…barring a full blown depression, hollywood will not be scaling back its presence at the con anytime soon

    overall, it is one of the least expensive junkets they have all year, and the buzz they gain out of the con is worth millions (unless they are promoting a shit project, like what happened with miller’s spirit)

    and only 150k show up…because of the fire code

    the year before they made a cutoff of tickets sold, they ended up turning away thousands

    the con could easily sell 250k…easy

    thing is…i wish ms mcdonald was right….if hollywood disappeared tomorrow, i would be overjoyed…because then i could go back to my con…the one i went to years before the twilight moms had ever heard of it…the con that i went to where you could sit in a small lecture room and hear gaiman talk without a mike and see him without a big screen on the wall

  3. It would be great if they could expand Comic-Con, but it is currently impossible. This is not because they couldn’t potentially spill over in Petco park or surrounding locations. It is because Downtown San Diego can NOT accommodate travelers. There are simply too few hotel rooms in the area. With the current 150,000ish attendees all hotels in San Diego are fully booked within an hour of being available. There is also already insufficient parking in the downtown region with current capacity. And with the current economic conditions in San Diego there will not be a major expansion in those areas in the near future that would allow for a sizeable expansion of the Con.

  4. Nice point about the economics of scale of SDCC (which is huge in nerdworld terms) vs. the really truly giant trade shows.

    I do think SDCC is awesome, enjoy the craziness and insanity every year I go, and certainly think it has grown exponentially from when I first journeyed there in the early 90s.

    But as trade shows as a whole go, it ain’t all that impressive. I’ve ever been to E3, but I have been to CES several times (work-related). That show basically takes over all of downtown Vegas for the better part of week. I once spent about 30 minutes in one of the CES con halls trying to find an exit. That’s never happened to me at ComicCon.

  5. From the CCI:SD home page:
    “MISSION STATEMENT: Comic-Con International is a nonprofit educational organization dedicated to creating awareness of, and appreciation for, comics and related popular art forms, primarily through the presentation of conventions and events that celebrate the historic and ongoing contribution of comics to art and culture.”

    1) The Con is already expanding outside the convention center, utilizing the nearby hotels. Could a studio like Warner Brothers rent the sports arena for a day and offer panels to the general public, while still exhibiting at the Con?

    2) CCI needs to promote more events for the general public throughout the year. This generates good will with the locals when something inconvenient happens. It fulfills their mission statement. It helps foster a creative community. (And if done right, San Diego turns into Angouleme or Erlangen…)

    3) How soon before the Disney Wonder docks in San Diego and holds a parallel Disneyana convention at the same time? (LA will be the home port in 2011.) It sleeps 2400. Food is included with cruises. Just a short drive from the terminal to the convention center via Harbor Drive… Heck… start the Disneyana show in Los Angeles, cruise to San Diego, dock, enjoy the Con (full pases included in cost of cruise), then return to LA with two days at Disneyland. The Disney cruise also gets you VIP seating in Hall H or wherever Disney panels are held, Disneyana exclusives, and the Wonder offers special events in the evening, such as test footage of upcoming events, talks with animators and directors, special exhibits from the Disney archives… AND you don’t have to deal with the hotel reservation system.

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